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	<description>A MUST READ FOR MUSLIMS WISHING TO DISASSOCIATE THEMSELVES FROM THE DOCTRINES OF EXTREMISM, TERRORISM, AND PAGANISM ESPOUSED BY THEIR SPIRITUAL LEADERS, AYATOLLAHS, PRIESTS, MULLAHS AND SCHOLARS</description>
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		<title>By: Muhammad Hussain</title>
		<link>http://mentalbondageinthenameofgod.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/abraham-did-not-know-anything-about-mecca/#comment-556</link>
		<dc:creator>Muhammad Hussain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Muhammad P did not have any agenda other than convey what was told to him by The God Almighty. He managed to do it. 

The God commanded him to uphold the faith of Abraham P. It states in the Quran, the God is telling Muhammad P say to the people

Say, &quot;Indeed, my Lord has guided me to a straight path – a correct religion – the way of Abraham, inclining toward truth. And he was not among those who associated others with Allah.&quot; Quran 6:161

He not only conveyed  to Arab and Non Arab but also People of Book  the decendent of Abraham P from Isaac P. (Jews and Chrisitans).


Say: &quot;O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah. that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.&quot; If then they turn back, say ye: &quot;Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah.s Will). Quran 3:64

Muhammad P died in 632 AD and left Quran and his examples recorded in the authentic hadiths. He told to people, He is done with his responsibility. Now it is up to people to uphold the faith of Abraham P by obeying Muhammad P as commanded in the QURAN or ignoring him and wait until the day of judgement. 

I choose to obey  God and accept Muhammad P the last and final messenger from the lineage of Abraham P.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muhammad P did not have any agenda other than convey what was told to him by The God Almighty. He managed to do it. </p>
<p>The God commanded him to uphold the faith of Abraham P. It states in the Quran, the God is telling Muhammad P say to the people</p>
<p>Say, &#8220;Indeed, my Lord has guided me to a straight path – a correct religion – the way of Abraham, inclining toward truth. And he was not among those who associated others with Allah.&#8221; Quran 6:161</p>
<p>He not only conveyed  to Arab and Non Arab but also People of Book  the decendent of Abraham P from Isaac P. (Jews and Chrisitans).</p>
<p>Say: &#8220;O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah. that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.&#8221; If then they turn back, say ye: &#8220;Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah.s Will). Quran 3:64</p>
<p>Muhammad P died in 632 AD and left Quran and his examples recorded in the authentic hadiths. He told to people, He is done with his responsibility. Now it is up to people to uphold the faith of Abraham P by obeying Muhammad P as commanded in the QURAN or ignoring him and wait until the day of judgement. </p>
<p>I choose to obey  God and accept Muhammad P the last and final messenger from the lineage of Abraham P.</p>
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		<title>By: Muhammad Hussain</title>
		<link>http://mentalbondageinthenameofgod.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/abraham-did-not-know-anything-about-mecca/#comment-555</link>
		<dc:creator>Muhammad Hussain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all if you study BIBLE and QURAN you will come to conclusion that God made covenant with Abraham p when Ismael p was 13 years old. Isaac P was not yet born. The God promised to Abraham P that he will make him father of many nations. Prophet Muhammad P is from the lineage of Abraham P who was legit Prophet and given responsiblity of the covenant. He conveyed it with 100% perfection by memorizing QURAN. and today over 10 millions Muslims around the world memorized it word for wor. So no one can mess around with words of God. Past nations failed to uphold the covenant and also twisted the words of God. They disobeyed Prophets and Messengers. They also killed them. They attributed Porno stories to them. One group avoid Sharia by twisting the scripture and other turned Jesus P into their God and used his dead body for their savlavtion. 
All available writings today are from Humans who can not be trusted exept the preserved Speech of Almighty GOD in fhe form QURAN. Which is recited in every mosque since the day the Prophet recieved and he taught his companions to carry it. The oral tradition is still maintained. I studied it I trust it 100% as compare to what all other religions offers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all if you study BIBLE and QURAN you will come to conclusion that God made covenant with Abraham p when Ismael p was 13 years old. Isaac P was not yet born. The God promised to Abraham P that he will make him father of many nations. Prophet Muhammad P is from the lineage of Abraham P who was legit Prophet and given responsiblity of the covenant. He conveyed it with 100% perfection by memorizing QURAN. and today over 10 millions Muslims around the world memorized it word for wor. So no one can mess around with words of God. Past nations failed to uphold the covenant and also twisted the words of God. They disobeyed Prophets and Messengers. They also killed them. They attributed Porno stories to them. One group avoid Sharia by twisting the scripture and other turned Jesus P into their God and used his dead body for their savlavtion.<br />
All available writings today are from Humans who can not be trusted exept the preserved Speech of Almighty GOD in fhe form QURAN. Which is recited in every mosque since the day the Prophet recieved and he taught his companions to carry it. The oral tradition is still maintained. I studied it I trust it 100% as compare to what all other religions offers.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheeba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheeba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem. I understand. I was only trying to discuss your work with you and offer another explanation. But its quite alright if you don&#039;t want to discuss it.

Just one clarification: I am not interpreting Matha-bat (which I read as &#039;represents&#039;) as Covenant. I am interpreting Bayt as Covenant because in classical Arabic Bayt also refers to oath that men take by placing one&#039;s hand over another&#039;s that has become standard practice in Sufism and has given rise to those under oath as ahl-al-bayt. You explain bayt as system which is quite like covenant.

Anyway, I am sorry if I seem to be sound over-excited :) It is just that I was reading on the same thing and am corresponding with a lot of people who have offered alternative explanations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem. I understand. I was only trying to discuss your work with you and offer another explanation. But its quite alright if you don&#8217;t want to discuss it.</p>
<p>Just one clarification: I am not interpreting Matha-bat (which I read as &#8216;represents&#8217;) as Covenant. I am interpreting Bayt as Covenant because in classical Arabic Bayt also refers to oath that men take by placing one&#8217;s hand over another&#8217;s that has become standard practice in Sufism and has given rise to those under oath as ahl-al-bayt. You explain bayt as system which is quite like covenant.</p>
<p>Anyway, I am sorry if I seem to be sound over-excited :) It is just that I was reading on the same thing and am corresponding with a lot of people who have offered alternative explanations.</p>
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		<title>By: Aidid Safar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aidid Safar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I don&#039;t share your understanding because the word &quot;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;mi-shak&#039; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;(covenant) and &quot;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ma-sha-bat&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&quot; are two different words. I mentioned in my book  I have based my observation on facts from the Quran &quot;Alone&quot; and presented the literal translation for it. If I have made any mistake then I am responsible only to myself and nobody will be made to answer for me on the day of Judgement.

Please take note I have refrained myself from making comments about your work or anybody&#039;s else work regarding the Quran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I don&#8217;t share your understanding because the word &#8220;<em><strong>mi-shak&#8217; </strong></em>(covenant) and &#8220;<em><strong>ma-sha-bat</strong></em>&#8221; are two different words. I mentioned in my book  I have based my observation on facts from the Quran &#8220;Alone&#8221; and presented the literal translation for it. If I have made any mistake then I am responsible only to myself and nobody will be made to answer for me on the day of Judgement.</p>
<p>Please take note I have refrained myself from making comments about your work or anybody&#8217;s else work regarding the Quran.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheeba</title>
		<link>http://mentalbondageinthenameofgod.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/abraham-did-not-know-anything-about-mecca/#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheeba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your reply, brother.

I understand that it is not plural. But the consonant is &#039;tha&#039; ث and not ش  &quot;sha&#039;. I *think* (and I may be wrong so please correct me) &quot;matha-batan&quot; means &#039;represents&#039; so the verse should read as (if I use my understanding and interpretation):

&quot;And remember We made the Covenant which represents safety  for the people; and take ye the Stance of Abraham (over monotheism) as the (standard) way to obey God; and We covenanted with Abraham and Isma&#039;il, that they should sanctify My Covenant for those who are guardians of human rights, and those who prevent divisions, and those obey Me humbly&quot;.

The Covenant refers to the one in Genesis Chapter 17 where Abraham and his son sanctified the covenant through circumcision.

What do you think of my humble attempt?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your reply, brother.</p>
<p>I understand that it is not plural. But the consonant is &#8216;tha&#8217; ث and not ش  &#8220;sha&#8217;. I *think* (and I may be wrong so please correct me) &#8220;matha-batan&#8221; means &#8216;represents&#8217; so the verse should read as (if I use my understanding and interpretation):</p>
<p>&#8220;And remember We made the Covenant which represents safety  for the people; and take ye the Stance of Abraham (over monotheism) as the (standard) way to obey God; and We covenanted with Abraham and Isma&#8217;il, that they should sanctify My Covenant for those who are guardians of human rights, and those who prevent divisions, and those obey Me humbly&#8221;.</p>
<p>The Covenant refers to the one in Genesis Chapter 17 where Abraham and his son sanctified the covenant through circumcision.</p>
<p>What do you think of my humble attempt?</p>
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		<title>By: Aidid Safar</title>
		<link>http://mentalbondageinthenameofgod.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/abraham-did-not-know-anything-about-mecca/#comment-324</link>
		<dc:creator>Aidid Safar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheeba, thank you for your comment.  The word &quot;Masha-batan&quot; used in 2:125 is a Paradigm of trileteral active aorist of dual and not plural. This can be found when we use the paradigm of  &quot;Yaf &#039;alu - Yaf &#039;alan and Yaf &#039;alun.

I am glad you are writing about the word bayta in verse 2:125 as ``God`s covenant with Abraham`` and I hope it can make more sense than mine. 

I never said my book is free from error but I made it very clear that mankind should not serve except God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheeba, thank you for your comment.  The word &#8220;Masha-batan&#8221; used in 2:125 is a Paradigm of trileteral active aorist of dual and not plural. This can be found when we use the paradigm of  &#8220;Yaf &#8216;alu &#8211; Yaf &#8216;alan and Yaf &#8216;alun.</p>
<p>I am glad you are writing about the word bayta in verse 2:125 as &#8220;God`s covenant with Abraham&#8220; and I hope it can make more sense than mine. </p>
<p>I never said my book is free from error but I made it very clear that mankind should not serve except God.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheeba</title>
		<link>http://mentalbondageinthenameofgod.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/abraham-did-not-know-anything-about-mecca/#comment-319</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheeba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked your book. I saved it on my PC and have read it twice in a week. I think your argument is valid in most places but there is something I wanted to point out - the word that you read as &quot;Masha-batan&quot; is actually &quot;Matha-batun&quot;. I am currently writing something on verse 2:125 and interpret House not as a physical house but as God&#039;s covenant with Abraham. Your analysis proved useful there but if you want more Muslims to take your work seriously then you must show that you know the Quran in reality. 

I am not saying that your analysis is not genuine but it suddenly stopped convincing me when I detected this fatal error. As a published book, your work should be as error-free as possible and this is quite a serious and cripling mistake. 

I wonder how you would explain &quot;matha-batan&quot;? I am eager to learn. Thank you and keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked your book. I saved it on my PC and have read it twice in a week. I think your argument is valid in most places but there is something I wanted to point out &#8211; the word that you read as &#8220;Masha-batan&#8221; is actually &#8220;Matha-batun&#8221;. I am currently writing something on verse 2:125 and interpret House not as a physical house but as God&#8217;s covenant with Abraham. Your analysis proved useful there but if you want more Muslims to take your work seriously then you must show that you know the Quran in reality. </p>
<p>I am not saying that your analysis is not genuine but it suddenly stopped convincing me when I detected this fatal error. As a published book, your work should be as error-free as possible and this is quite a serious and cripling mistake. </p>
<p>I wonder how you would explain &#8220;matha-batan&#8221;? I am eager to learn. Thank you and keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Aidid Safar</title>
		<link>http://mentalbondageinthenameofgod.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/abraham-did-not-know-anything-about-mecca/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Aidid Safar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that the caretaker of the Arab religion in Malaysia are the expert in solving this kind of problem. Go to my website and read the article about &quot;How to pray in space&quot;.  Have fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that the caretaker of the Arab religion in Malaysia are the expert in solving this kind of problem. Go to my website and read the article about &#8220;How to pray in space&#8221;.  Have fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Dear Aidid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dear Aidid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The argument is totally valid,.  I will add something more.  1.5 billion say their prayers 5 time a day.  If it is the house of god then what will happen when mankind go out of the planet earth.  Their wont be any cube or stone to who&#039;s direction mankind will say their prayers.  So, the concept is earth bound and Islam will be become earth bound as well.  What will happen then??
So argumentatively, it has been concocted.

Ali</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The argument is totally valid,.  I will add something more.  1.5 billion say their prayers 5 time a day.  If it is the house of god then what will happen when mankind go out of the planet earth.  Their wont be any cube or stone to who&#8217;s direction mankind will say their prayers.  So, the concept is earth bound and Islam will be become earth bound as well.  What will happen then??<br />
So argumentatively, it has been concocted.</p>
<p>Ali</p>
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		<dc:creator>The worship of a stone house &#171; Mental Bondage In The Name Of God</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 03:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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